tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3114039113300001146.post2474367592326782152..comments2023-11-10T10:07:24.336-06:00Comments on Twin Cities Boys Hoops: 2013 AAAA Semi: Park Center vs EdinaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3114039113300001146.post-91838773950545260652013-03-23T18:12:30.995-05:002013-03-23T18:12:30.995-05:00Gotta agree with Royce. Broman lead weak teams to ...Gotta agree with Royce. Broman lead weak teams to two state tournements. If he hadn’t had the flu they might have won it last year (when they had a OK center). His team was 20-11 against a very, very, tough schedule. They could have played weak teams. If they had scheduled McGregor, Broman probably would have pulled a Danny Heater on them. Replace Broman with Hooker or Woodard and neither one would improve on that record. He scored more points than any high schooler in 100 years of record keeping in MN. His team had about 5 offensive rebounds all season (slight exageration). He was probably somewhere in the top 10 in ppg for the whole country. His 70 point games were against real teams, with winning records. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3114039113300001146.post-50740604599100305682013-03-23T00:02:23.578-05:002013-03-23T00:02:23.578-05:00Its not just about points. Its also about taking ...Its not just about points. Its also about taking your team and your game to another level at critical times. Think Tyus Jones. Why is he so great. Not just because he can play on his own. Its because he takes the other 4 players to another level. Why do the other kids on that team pass the ball so well, because Tyus' passing ability is infectious. <br /><br />Anders could have scored 1000 less career points and with big wins could have won the award (like Kevin Noreen did). 5100+ is great but what did he actually win in his career. He didn't play well in the biggest games. Box and 1 vs Chisholm as a soph in section final loss, last year vs BBE in 1st round at state bad loss, 4 fouls in 1st half in loss to PSA last year loss, vs RP this year at state bad loss. Scoreless vs Blake for an entire half in a blowout loss. 26 vs Onalaska in loss<br /><br />Woodward beat Hopkins 3 times including the winning FTs to make state, Minnetonka twice. Hooker beat Apple Valley, beat Osseo twice including in a section final and beat Edina at state. He was great in all of those wins. Those teams won 2 of the strongest conferences in the state and it was because those kids played great in those big games (Woodward 41 in 1st meeting against Minnetonka for example). Woodward had very little help as we saw in the state semis. Hooker did have lots of help but he was the clear catalyst that made it all go, even when not scoring. See game vs Edina. Only took 9 shots, but made an impact with 8 boards, 7 assists for 17 more points and made crazy smart plays for the final 2 fouls on Reggie Lynch. Game is a blowout and he doesn't have to take shots because he did the other things. Ask anybody who knows that Pirates team, if you take him off of the team, they're no where close to the same team. <br /><br />Nothing against Anders but if you put the resumes out there, his just doesn't compare to the other 2. He definitely belongs in the top 5 and would be a worthy winner in many cases. But there just happen to be 2 kids who had better seasons. The committee does take the role players into account. After all, look at Aaron Lien at Moorhead, team with a record that isn't great but he did lots for that team. Compared to Joe Aase who's team was undefeated but he didn't make the list likely because he didn't do enough beyond simply scoring. See also Scottie Stone, who's team arguably had more success but he's not on the list.<br /><br />I will acknowledge that for outstate small schools its harder to go find the games to make the case. Cody Schilling had the same problem. Kevin Noreen definitely had an opportunity there because he was in the metro. But he also produced in those games (check the tracker and you'll see that). Is there a team component to it, absolutely because great players lead their teams to great heights. Woodward led a group of role players and Lynch to the Lake title and state semifinals.<br /><br />I will be shocked if the winner is anybody but Hooker. Woodward or Broman I would disagree with but wouldn't be terribly upset. Lien or Dearring, that would be a crime.Twin Cities Hoops Czarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10961465528622169584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3114039113300001146.post-20493441868601194762013-03-22T21:50:48.016-05:002013-03-22T21:50:48.016-05:00I think you watched the Lakeview game. I know you...I think you watched the Lakeview game. I know you watched them at some point this regular season as you did a couple write ups on them. Their three other starters are liabilities on the court. Broman gets all of the defensive focus. You cannot say the same for Hooker. <br /><br />Again I ask: How many would Broman have to average for him to be Mr. Basketball worthy?Royce Graciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07868434681281791478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3114039113300001146.post-73071131288146621752013-03-22T20:19:53.737-05:002013-03-22T20:19:53.737-05:00There are many reasons. Who he played, how he did...There are many reasons. Who he played, how he did in those games, who they beat. Hooker with smart play, big wins and big numbers. Ultimately he had a better season. No shame in that. His team won multiple big games (AV, Osseo twice etc) and he played well in those games. Like it or not, that can't be said for Anders.Twin Cities Hoops Czarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10961465528622169584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3114039113300001146.post-9339614332136025002013-03-22T19:05:10.954-05:002013-03-22T19:05:10.954-05:00Quinton Hooker finishes with 14 oints, 8 boards an...Quinton Hooker finishes with 14 oints, 8 boards and 7 assists. He shot shot 4-9. Now he should get Mr. Basketball? I guess I don't see the logic here. Is it simply because his team is advancing to the final. <br /><br />I think Mr. Broman has Mr. Basketball lined up, and if not, please don't even include single A teams in the running from now on. <br /><br />Mr. Czar, how many PPG would a kid from a single A, Northern MN school have to average for you to approve of them getting Mr. Basketball? 50? 60? 70? 43 isn't enough i guess. Royce Graciehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07868434681281791478noreply@blogger.com