tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3114039113300001146.post6797291970776770367..comments2023-11-10T10:07:24.336-06:00Comments on Twin Cities Boys Hoops: Jan 2, 2013 CzarPIUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3114039113300001146.post-56254662927688377592013-01-03T08:13:18.286-06:002013-01-03T08:13:18.286-06:00Lee, I put very little stock in the DLS number bec...Lee, I put very little stock in the DLS number because it is 1 game. They were 1 of only 15 teams out of 415 that had less than 5 games count in the calculation. You and I will agree to disagree on class differential. That's one of my big issues with the QRF. That's why I say evaluate that separately with the number. I should blow up the entire calculation because of the rare team that plays a schedule not within in its class? I did consider going by in-class games only, but then you wouldn't have nearly the sample size for KM that you would for everybody else in the section. So neither using a differential or going to a same class model makes sense. Remember schedule strength isn't just who you've played. Its who your opponents have played and beaten and who those opponents opponents have played and beaten.<br /><br />My D1 is MSHSL tournament teams, non D1 teams are the teams not playing in the tournament. Remember too than any computer system gets better as the season goes on as the amount of data increases signficantly. The more data, the better the calculation.Twin Cities Hoops Czarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10961465528622169584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3114039113300001146.post-39437152119527171422013-01-03T07:16:36.750-06:002013-01-03T07:16:36.750-06:00Very well written, very valid points, Coach Brazi...Very well written, very valid points, Coach Braziel.Pillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05953488240571178230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3114039113300001146.post-39626672728431849462013-01-02T22:51:36.244-06:002013-01-02T22:51:36.244-06:00First, thanks Kevin for all you do in covering hig...First, thanks Kevin for all you do in covering high school basketball in Minnesota. I always enjoy reading your game recaps. What you do here and at Northstar Hoops Report is fantastic.<br /><br />I don't think anyone would quibble with DeLaSalle as defending champs with loads of returning talent being ranked #1 in AAA, except I can't figure out how your formula could produce that result with only one game against MSHSL competition. Their only MN game is a win over Brooklyn Center (6-2) and you have DeLaSalle with SOS of 6. How does the math work on that?<br /><br />The bigger issue I see with CzarPI remains its lack of class differential. For example, Kasson-Mantorville is 2-6 and has a CzarPI of 42.75 and a Class AAA rank of 36. Its two wins were against AA schools with a combined record of 8-7. Kasson is 0-3 against 1AAA schools.<br /><br />Winona is 3-4 in MSHSL play and has beaten two teams from the Old Kingdom (wins that don't count), for a CzarPI of 37.27 and rank of 50. Winona's three MSHSL wins have come against AAA teams with a combined record of 5-21. So given the poor record of the teams Winona has beaten, I can see how your formula as you have constructed it would give you the results it has.<br /><br />But Winona is 2-2 against 1AAA opponents, including a 91-32 win over...Kasson-Mantorville.<br /><br />If you don't think you can come up with a reasonable class differential because a metro AA private school that draws from a big population base can't compare with one in a small rural community, I think you would be better off having the CzarPI based solely on intraclass games.<br /><br />That's what RPI does for NCAA: D1 games against non-D1 teams don't count. I think it would be more meaningful to only use games within class in your calculations. Factoring in the opponents' opponents' opponents' records makes sense if you limit it to the class, because those are the teams that could actually face each other in March.<br /><br />Again, thanks for all you do for Minnesota basketball. Will you be in La Crosse on the 19th?<br />LeeAasehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13344159485037569749noreply@blogger.com