The final 2011 rankings are out for all the big services here how the Minnesota class of 2011 did along with others who appeared locally.
Rivals
Joe Coleman #121
Others who appeared locally
Brad Beal (#4) - Florida
Cody Zeller (#15) - Indiana
Adonis Thomas (#17) - Memphis
Branden Dawson (#20) - Michigan St
BJ Young (#25) - Arkansas
Myck Kabongo (#26) - Texas
Ky Madden (#32) - Arkansas
Quinn Cook (#38) - Duke
Mychael Henry (#39) - Illinois
Julien Lewis (#57) - Texas
Marshall Plumlee (#79) - Duke
Hunter Mickleson (#100) - Arkansas
Jerome Seagears (#101) - Rutgers
Andre Hollins (#110) - Minnesota
TaShawn Thomas (#113) - Houston
Jarion Henry (#119) - New Mexico
Josh Oglesby (#122) - Iowa
Paul Jesperson (#136) - Virginia
Aaron Ross (#143) - Arkansas
Cedrick McAfee (#145) - Auburn
Spencer Dinwiddie (#146) - Colorado
Jarrod Uthoff (#149) - Wisconsin
Scout
No Minnesota players ranked
ESPN
Joe Coleman #93 behind Paul Jesperson #87
Hardwood Elite
Joe Coleman #80 behind Paul Jesperson #69
Ross Travis #91
Add #61 Todd Mayo (Marquette) to the list of others who appeared locally.
Andre Hollins #46
For the record, I think Coleman and Jesperson will have nice college careers. I don't think either is quite to the top 100 level. Coleman consistently dominated his higher level competition both in the winter and the spring. He averaged 22 PPG while sitting major minutes as Hopkins destroyed people. Jesperson's team was 11-11 this year in the regular season against inferior competition. If not for Onalaska's top 2 bigs blowing out knees, Jesperson's Merrill team doesn't get out of section play. He averaged 22.6 PPG playing big minutes. While he had 45 in a game here last spring, in the spring games that I saw Jesperson play against our top teams he generally struggled against more physical play. Coleman also did all of this with a loaded roster where Jesperson's team didn't have nearly that kind of talent. The general recruiting rule is that you can teach skills but not athleticism. Schools recruit bigger, stronger and faster because they have to. So put all of that together and even though I'm clearly no expert on player evaluation, based on the facts above, it really shocks me that at least 2 of the rankings put Jesperson ahead of Coleman. It proves my complaint with rankings. Anybody who says they can see kids enough to do an intelligent ranking at a state or national level is full of it. I spend as much time in the gym as anybody and I know first hand that you can't see a significant amount of any large number of players. Especially when many of the writers focus mostly on Nike events (but don't get me started on that). That's why kids like a Gordon Hayward or even Alec Brown fall through the cracks.
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End of summer rankings out for class of 2011
Rivals.com and Scout.com released their end of summer rankings for the class of 2011 today. Joe Coleman once again left out of the Scout rankings with Paul Jesperson in. How Jesperson can be ranked far higher when Coleman consistently dominates far better competition in the summer and winter is totally beyond me.
In the Rivals rankings, Joe Coleman drops from #111 to #116 in this round of the rankings. Here are others who have appeared locally.
#7 Brad Beal - Florida (down from #6)
#13 Branden Dawson - Michigan State (up from #25)
#15 Adonis Thomas
#18 BJ Young
#20 Cody Zeller
#24 Myck Kabongo - Texas (down from #11)
#27 Ky Madden
#28 Quinn Cook (down from #23)
#74 Cedric McAfee
#82 Marshall Plumlee - Duke
#96 Julien Lewis - Texas
#98 Hunter Mickelson - Arkansas
#99 Jerome Seagears
#118 Josh Oglesby
#123 Jeremiah Davis
#126 Andre Hollins
#129 Paul Jesperson (up from #140)
#147 Aaron Ross - Arkansas
#150 Jarrod Uthoff - Wisconsin
Read the entire Rivals.com rankings here.
Read the entire Scout.com rankings here.
In the Rivals rankings, Joe Coleman drops from #111 to #116 in this round of the rankings. Here are others who have appeared locally.
#7 Brad Beal - Florida (down from #6)
#13 Branden Dawson - Michigan State (up from #25)
#15 Adonis Thomas
#18 BJ Young
#20 Cody Zeller
#24 Myck Kabongo - Texas (down from #11)
#27 Ky Madden
#28 Quinn Cook (down from #23)
#74 Cedric McAfee
#82 Marshall Plumlee - Duke
#96 Julien Lewis - Texas
#98 Hunter Mickelson - Arkansas
#99 Jerome Seagears
#118 Josh Oglesby
#123 Jeremiah Davis
#126 Andre Hollins
#129 Paul Jesperson (up from #140)
#147 Aaron Ross - Arkansas
#150 Jarrod Uthoff - Wisconsin
Read the entire Rivals.com rankings here.
Read the entire Scout.com rankings here.
Minnesota Players in new Hardwood Elite rankings
Labels:
2011 Recruiting,
2012 Recruiting,
Joe Coleman,
Ross Travis
Hardwood Elite just released their post-July 2010 rankings for the 2011-2013 classes. Here's how the Minnesota kids came out and then my commentary. The full rankings can be found here.
2011
Joe Coleman #76
Ross Travis #87
Others that have appeared locally include
Brad Beal #3
Adonis Thomas #10
Myck Kabongo #14
Cody Zeller #17
Branden Dawson #19
Ky Madden #23
Quinn Cook #24
BJ Young #51
Todd Mayo #56
Paul Jesperson #66
Jarrod Uthoff #79
Cedric McAfee #80
Hunter Mickelson #81
Josh Oglesby #91
2012
Isaiah Zierden #94
Others that have appeared locally.
Marcus Paige #22
Kevin "Yogi" Ferrell #25
Rasheed Sulaimon #27
Jordan Adams #28
J-Mychal Reese #29
LJ Rose #30
Cameron Biedscheid #33
DeMarquise Johnson #35
Jordan Price #37
Shaquille Goodwin #38
Torian Graham #49
Junior Lomomba #73
Cinmeon Bowers #74
Philip Nolan #80
2013
No Minnesota Players. #7 Peter Jok and #9 Deonte Burton have both appeared locally.
The Czar's Commentary
Another analyst picks Paul Jesperson above Joe Coleman. I think Coleman has consistently done more and been flat out dominant against better competition both in the summer and during the high school season. Its a fun problem of rankings. You have Coleman (the athlete), Jesperson (the shooter) and Josh Oglesby (the most well-rounded of the 3). Oglesby is the most ready of the group and he finishes lowest in the rankings out of the 3.
Very interesting to see Zierden coming in before Howard Pulley teammate Siyani Chambers (Chambers is #81 in the Rivals 2012 rankings as I write this). I think Chambers performance at the Pacesetter Sweet 16 definitely elevated him.
As to Deonte Burton, I saw him twice at the East Metro Showcase in January. Didn't average double figures against the top 2 St. Paul teams (and Central may have been the most overrated team in the state last year). Nice player with some upside, but I saw Peter Jok in 2 events this summer and Jok was a man amongst small children. Definitely didn't see that from Burton.
Let's give Hardwood Elite credit for showing up for the Best Buy Summer Classic unlike the rest of the national media. Shame on the national services for sending your entire staffs (basically) to the Peach Jam when they already attended Nike event after Nike event after Nike event after Nike Event after Nike Event. Its a flat out crime that the Best Buy Summer Classic had 25 top national players and couldn't get any kind of real national publicity. Yet, the same folks could attend all 4 of the Nike EYBL events.
2011
Joe Coleman #76
Ross Travis #87
Others that have appeared locally include
Brad Beal #3
Adonis Thomas #10
Myck Kabongo #14
Cody Zeller #17
Branden Dawson #19
Ky Madden #23
Quinn Cook #24
BJ Young #51
Todd Mayo #56
Paul Jesperson #66
Jarrod Uthoff #79
Cedric McAfee #80
Hunter Mickelson #81
Josh Oglesby #91
2012
Isaiah Zierden #94
Others that have appeared locally.
Marcus Paige #22
Kevin "Yogi" Ferrell #25
Rasheed Sulaimon #27
Jordan Adams #28
J-Mychal Reese #29
LJ Rose #30
Cameron Biedscheid #33
DeMarquise Johnson #35
Jordan Price #37
Shaquille Goodwin #38
Torian Graham #49
Junior Lomomba #73
Cinmeon Bowers #74
Philip Nolan #80
2013
No Minnesota Players. #7 Peter Jok and #9 Deonte Burton have both appeared locally.
The Czar's Commentary
Another analyst picks Paul Jesperson above Joe Coleman. I think Coleman has consistently done more and been flat out dominant against better competition both in the summer and during the high school season. Its a fun problem of rankings. You have Coleman (the athlete), Jesperson (the shooter) and Josh Oglesby (the most well-rounded of the 3). Oglesby is the most ready of the group and he finishes lowest in the rankings out of the 3.
Very interesting to see Zierden coming in before Howard Pulley teammate Siyani Chambers (Chambers is #81 in the Rivals 2012 rankings as I write this). I think Chambers performance at the Pacesetter Sweet 16 definitely elevated him.
As to Deonte Burton, I saw him twice at the East Metro Showcase in January. Didn't average double figures against the top 2 St. Paul teams (and Central may have been the most overrated team in the state last year). Nice player with some upside, but I saw Peter Jok in 2 events this summer and Jok was a man amongst small children. Definitely didn't see that from Burton.
Let's give Hardwood Elite credit for showing up for the Best Buy Summer Classic unlike the rest of the national media. Shame on the national services for sending your entire staffs (basically) to the Peach Jam when they already attended Nike event after Nike event after Nike event after Nike Event after Nike Event. Its a flat out crime that the Best Buy Summer Classic had 25 top national players and couldn't get any kind of real national publicity. Yet, the same folks could attend all 4 of the Nike EYBL events.
Minnesota Swap in new Rivals 2011 Top 150
Labels:
2011 Recruiting,
Joe Coleman,
Rivals Recruiting,
Ross Travis
Rivals released their spring 2010 top 100 for the class of 2011. A swap of Minnesota players is notable as Ross Travis drops out from #133 and Joe Coleman jumps in at #104. That's despite missing a big chunk of time with an injured ankle/foot.
Here are others who have appeared locally.
#5 Brad Beal (up from #7, Florida)
#14 Myck Kabongo (up from #24, Texas)
#20 Quinn Cook (no change)
#30 Branden Dawson (down from #16)
#132 Paul Jesperson (new)
Read the entire rankings here.
Here are others who have appeared locally.
#5 Brad Beal (up from #7, Florida)
#14 Myck Kabongo (up from #24, Texas)
#20 Quinn Cook (no change)
#30 Branden Dawson (down from #16)
#132 Paul Jesperson (new)
Read the entire rankings here.
Gopher Hole interviews Ross Travis
Labels:
2011 Recruiting,
Ross Travis
Nadine Babu of GopherHole.com recently interviewed Chaska star Ross Travis about his recruitment. They talk about offers and why Ross jumped on to the radar just recently. He also had some very interesting comments about a Big East school and their style of play. Read the entire interview here.
Chaska star makes Rivals Top 150
Labels:
2011 Recruiting,
Rivals Recruiting,
Ross Travis
Rivals released their post summer 2009 top 100 for the class of 2011. Chaska's Ross Travis makes the list after a big summer with 43 Hoops Carr. He comes in at #133. Rivals analyst Jerry Meyer was impressed with him in Vegas.
Here are others who have appeared locally.
#7 Bradley Beal
#16 Branden Dawson
#20 Quinn Cook
#24 Myck Kabongo - Committed to Texas
#116 Darell Longstreet
Read the entire rankings here.
Read Jerry Meyer's comments on Ross Travis in Vegas here (scroll to the end)
Here are others who have appeared locally.
#7 Bradley Beal
#16 Branden Dawson
#20 Quinn Cook
#24 Myck Kabongo - Committed to Texas
#116 Darell Longstreet
Read the entire rankings here.
Read Jerry Meyer's comments on Ross Travis in Vegas here (scroll to the end)
Jan 2009 updates on Jett, Calcaterra, Bjorklund
Labels:
2010 Recruiting,
2011 Recruiting,
Chad Calcaterra
Last Friday NY2LA Sports released comments on Marshall Bjorklund, Chad Calcaterra and Jordair Jett (I'm cheating calling him a 2010 kid since he'll do prep school for a year). They list a handful of offers for Jett and see Bjorklund getting high major offers this year (not sure if I personally agree with that due to Bjorklund's height, but you have to like his game.) They also project where a couple of these kids will play this summer. No huge surprises there but worth noting anyway.
They also reference Minnetonka sophomore Nick Latzke who I talked about when I saw Minnetonka take on Hopkins last week.
I saw Terry Taylor play at the start of the season. Nice player as a point guard. #4 Frosh in Wisconsin Tony Mayfield was also in that game and he'll be a nice player too.
It'll be interesting to see what role (if any) Phillip Nolan plays for Milwaukee Vincent in the East Metro Showcase (he's also mentioned in the piece). He was #5 in the class of 2012 rankings released by Wishoops last week.
Read the full NY2LA Sports article here.
They also reference Minnetonka sophomore Nick Latzke who I talked about when I saw Minnetonka take on Hopkins last week.
I saw Terry Taylor play at the start of the season. Nice player as a point guard. #4 Frosh in Wisconsin Tony Mayfield was also in that game and he'll be a nice player too.
It'll be interesting to see what role (if any) Phillip Nolan plays for Milwaukee Vincent in the East Metro Showcase (he's also mentioned in the piece). He was #5 in the class of 2012 rankings released by Wishoops last week.
Read the full NY2LA Sports article here.
NY2LA Sports comments on local players
NY2LA Sports released comments on a few players this week. Their article includes comments on Rodney Williams, Billy Giddings (Blaine), Cole Stefan and Nick Latzke (Minnetonka) along with a couple of Wisconsin players that I saw last season and one of the sons of the best player ever. The entire article can be read here.
It also mentions the 2008 Full Court Fall Showcase camp that will be held at Minnetonka on Oct 11 and 12th. This is put on by Net Gain Sports. More info can be found on the Net Gain Sports website.
The article mentions Tyler Brown and Brett Meinecke from Wisconsin. Brown plays in the shadow of 2010 star Evan Anderson (committed to Wisconsin, ranked #37 Rivals.com, #17 Scout.com, #24 ESPN), but he's the best scorer on his Eau Claire North team. Can play inside and has the ability to step all the way out to the 3 point line and make shots. Nice pickup for Central Michigan. I'll get another chance to see him play December 2nd for their big game at the Swamp vs La Crosse Logan and one of Wisconsin's top 2011 prospects, Trevor Jorgenson (offered by UW-Milwaukee). Its a matchup of some of the best big guys in Wisconsin.
Meinecke is also in the shadow of another star Kameron Cerroni (26.5 PPG last year as a sophomore, committed to UWGB). He's part of a young and small Sussex Hamilton squad that is building to be very dangerous in 2009-2010. He's a small guard but can shoot it. A nice compliment. He struggled with injuries this summer. They play De La Salle in the Border Battle in Owatonna on Saturday January 24th, 2009 in a compelling matchup.
Giddings has sufficient physical tools. Playing without the ball and his defense are areas he continues to work on. But he can definitely score.
Latzke is a lot like his older brother Andrew who played for the Skippers this last year. Another sweet shooting lefty who will be a big contributor down the road.
And what more needs to be said about Cole Stefan. His stock continues to rise and with a full year to shine now that all of the Tonka seniors are gone, expect him to have a monster year.
It also mentions the 2008 Full Court Fall Showcase camp that will be held at Minnetonka on Oct 11 and 12th. This is put on by Net Gain Sports. More info can be found on the Net Gain Sports website.
The article mentions Tyler Brown and Brett Meinecke from Wisconsin. Brown plays in the shadow of 2010 star Evan Anderson (committed to Wisconsin, ranked #37 Rivals.com, #17 Scout.com, #24 ESPN), but he's the best scorer on his Eau Claire North team. Can play inside and has the ability to step all the way out to the 3 point line and make shots. Nice pickup for Central Michigan. I'll get another chance to see him play December 2nd for their big game at the Swamp vs La Crosse Logan and one of Wisconsin's top 2011 prospects, Trevor Jorgenson (offered by UW-Milwaukee). Its a matchup of some of the best big guys in Wisconsin.
Meinecke is also in the shadow of another star Kameron Cerroni (26.5 PPG last year as a sophomore, committed to UWGB). He's part of a young and small Sussex Hamilton squad that is building to be very dangerous in 2009-2010. He's a small guard but can shoot it. A nice compliment. He struggled with injuries this summer. They play De La Salle in the Border Battle in Owatonna on Saturday January 24th, 2009 in a compelling matchup.
Giddings has sufficient physical tools. Playing without the ball and his defense are areas he continues to work on. But he can definitely score.
Latzke is a lot like his older brother Andrew who played for the Skippers this last year. Another sweet shooting lefty who will be a big contributor down the road.
And what more needs to be said about Cole Stefan. His stock continues to rise and with a full year to shine now that all of the Tonka seniors are gone, expect him to have a monster year.
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